ALB makes valid points. Lots and lots of valid points.
However, I have to call a flag on the play for this for two reasons:
The first reason is that, not counting theatrical shorts, this is the actual breakdown:
- Batman: The Movie (1966)
- Batman (1989)
- Batman Returns
- Batman Forever
- Batman and Robin
- Batman Begins
- The Dark Knight
- The Dark Knight Rises
- Superman and the Mole Men
- Superman II
- Superman III
- Superman Iv: The Quest For Peace
- Superman Returns
- Man of Steel
(technically Supergirl is included and in-canon with the Superman films, considering Superman didn’t actually make a physical appearance on-screen beyond a poster, Supergirl isn’t a Superman film but rather a Supergirl film … more on that later)
- Wonder Woman (1974) .
Yeah, there was a live-action made-for-TV movie. It was supposed to be a pilot for a potential Wonder Woman TV series, but they wouldn’t find success with that until a year later. Long story short, I’ve seen the TV pilot. It had its moments, but Wonder Woman, this was not. Sure, it had Diana Prince and Steve Trevor, but this was more of a spy series than an adventure series. They completely got it right when they stayed true to the comics and cast Lynda Carter in the role.
So, that count isn’t really 10-10-0, but rather 8-7*-1.The asterisk being Supergirl, of course.
The number is higher, mind you, but she was quite dismissive about the animated fare, which is unfortunate. I’m a defender of the animated medium, and I know it could tell a great story and do things people thought were impossible to do in live-action. Computer animation made the impossible a reality in a lot of these cape-and-cowl flicks these days. That recent trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 uses a lot of animation, particularly in that final segment. Beautiful, beautiful animation.
But I digress.
So, not counting the Justice League, cameos, or team-up flicks:
- Mask of the Phantasm
- Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
- Mystery of the Batwoman
- The Batman vs. Dracula
- Gotham Knight
- Under the Red Hood
- Year One
- The Dark Knight Returns Part One
- The Dark Knight Returns Part Two
- Brainiac Attacks
- All-Star Superman
- Superman vs. The Elite
- Superman Unbound
- Wonder Woman (2009)
This is the only solo Wonder Woman film ever produced, and it’s considered by many to be one of the best if not THE best DC Universe animated features ever made. Directed by Lauren Montgomery and co-written by Gail Simone and loosely based on George Perez’s iconic Gods and Mortals arc that reintroduced the character for modern audiences, Wonder Woman was a great film. Not just a great animated film, a great film, and to have so many folks dismiss it just because it’s animated completely reeks of the same kind of elitism that still breeds the whole “cartoons are just for kids” mentality to this day.
So, counting the animated films, the number actually is this:
Still a jacked-up, totally uneven number.
Wonder Woman did appear in all the Justice League movies and has a major leading role in a pair of them:
- Justice League: The New Frontier (she was played by Lucy Lawless in that one!)
- Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox
Wonder Woman also has a very important role along Superman and Batman (who teamed up earlier in Public Enemies) in Apocalypse, as did Big Barda and, of course, Supergirl (this was her origin story). I hated the fact that Wonder Woman wasn’t on the cover especially given that a third of the film takes place on Themyscira and that the film wasn’t called Supergirl at all.
Like I said, I get what ALB is saying about Wonder Woman’s role in the untitled Justice League film (let’s face facts: this ain’t Man of Steel 2 any more, so they should stop with that noise right away), but to say she’s been in zero films is a discredit to the two films she actually was the solo heroine in and the three films she had a major leading role as well as the animation industry that brought her to life when Warner Bros was so cowardly about giving her a live-action film for so many years.
I’m just sick of Batman movies at this point.